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New Page: Grimmauld Place

A new page today for number twelve, Grimmauld Place.

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  • Aaron

    “In 1998, however, with the Order of the Phoenix believing that Severus Snape had betrayed Dumbledore, the Order of the Phoenix moved out of the building once again”

    You mean 1997

  • Aaron

    “Having given him the secret to their location, the trio was then forced to abandon Grimmauld Place for the remainder of the year, at least until Voldemort’s fall in 1999″

    …And 1998 (Jo doesn’t seem to be the only one bad at Maths)

  • http://hp-lexicon.org John

    Haha, fixed. Thanks, Aaron.

    Sadly, I used to teach math to high schoolers. Sigh.

  • ascatal

    very nicely done so nice to see the regular updates return, for a while i feared that the website would get caught up inthe legal action somehow and have to be shut down

  • Reader2

    In describing Sirus’ and Regulus’ rooms you might want to point out the picture of Marauders and the picture of the Slythin Quidditch team.
    They did prove important to the plot.

  • Alorra Spinnet

    Under Front Entrance,you put number eleven and number eleven, instead of number thirteen.

  • Anna-Rita

    new stuff to explore on jk rowlings site

  • Anna-Rita

    it went up yesterday

  • willowtree

    @ Anna-Rita
    where? I did not see anything new, or is only on the text version?

  • JJB

    John,
    Great to see your work again– We missed you—so much so that I got out my extra-fine-tooth comb while reading. Just remember, if we didn’t think so highly of your work we wouldn’t put in the effort:P I bet you’re thinking you could do with being thought a little less of if it meant less nitpicking:D

    Twice it is noted that Sirius, Harry, and the Weasleys clean the house over the summer. Hermione deserves a mention too as she was not a Weasley at the time of the cleaning and, although I believe she took the name, we have no canon to prove she was a Mrs. Weasley even after marrying Ron ;)

    Next…
    “…which takes to screaming at the top of her lungs whenever she spots “Mudbloods” in her house (
    Perhaps Mrs. Black’s portrait saves her greatest hatred for Muggle-borns, I don’t know, but my comment is that not only Muggle-borns, but blood traitors too were targets of her vitriol. Mrs. Black awakens and screams whenever disturbed by anyone and spews her venom…
    “Filth! Scum! By-products of dirt and vileness! Half-breeds, mutants, freaks, begone from this place! How dare you befoul the house of my fathers–” and to Sirius, “Blood traitor, abomination, shame of my flesh!” OP4 When Mrs. Weasley escorts Ginny up to bed so she won’t hear the answers to Harry’s questions to Sirius about Voldemort, Mrs. Black awakes and screams at them even though they are pure blood because they are blood traitors.

    Next…
    ; and another cupboard off the kitchen houses the boiler for the house, as well as
    Preacher’s den, filled with rags, smelly blankets, and photographs of the
    Black family.
    Filled until Mundungus Fletcher steals it all and leaves only a filthy blanket and a dead mouse behind. DH10

    Next…
    “colors and banners, and posters of Muggle biker girls.”
    We are sure in Sirius’s room there were posters of Muggle motorcycles and Muggle girls in bikinis but we don’t know if any were actually pictured on the motorcycles. “…many pictures of Muggle motorcycles, and also (Harry had to admire Sirius’s nerve) several posters of bikini-clad Muggle girls; Harry could tell that they were Muggles because they remained quite stationary within their pictures, faded smiles and glazed eyes frozen on the paper.” DH10 Muggle biker girls indeed? Well, John , I think we learned a little about how your mind works;P

  • JJB

    I never cease to be amazed how many times I read something in HP and don’t see it until just now. I’m sure others have mentioned it before but it was only when looking at the OP text about the Black’s house description that I noticed the Black House front door is black. We saw a door play on words in CS with the griffin on the door of Dumbledor’s study, making it a griffyn-door (or Griffyndor, get it?) and in OP we see a Door of Black on the House of Black. Help me out here, Bandersnatch, is there any other door word-play out there? Two incidents can be coincidence but three times would make a pattern.

  • JJB

    Out comes the microscope…
    “The wall on the stair is decorated with a row of shrunken house-elf heads, mounted on the wall on plaques…“

    “they started up the dark staircase, passing a row of shrunken heads mounted on plaques on the wall. A closer look showed Harry that the heads belonged to house-elves.” OP4 Reading the actual text it seems at first to state flatly the heads on the plaques are shrunken but I remember when I first read the description I saw it as another of those mistaken certainties of Harry’s since we receive this first view through Harry’s eyes—he also thought the curtains over Mrs. Black’s portrait actually covered a door. I’m not certain the house-elf heads were shrunken—Harry first thought the plaques were of shrunken heads and then realized they were actually house-elfs, which would be the size of a shrunken human head but not necessarily shrunken themselves. Jo uses this what Harry saw wasn’t really what Harry saw later in the same book when he first encounters Grawp, “They crept forward and Harry saw that they were facing a large, smooth mound of earth nearly as tall as Hagrid that he thought, with a jolt of dread, was sure to be the lair of some enormous animal.”OP30 As we know, the thing he took to be a boulder was really Grawp’s head.

    If the house-elf heads really are shrunken, oddly, that adjective is never used again in referring to them even though the house-elf heads ar noted several more times in the book and the series. “even the stuffed elf heads on the hall wall wore Father Christmas hats and beards.”OP23 or “It looked just as Harry remembered it: eerie, cobwebbed, the outlines of the house-elf heads on the wall throwing odd shadows up the staircase.” DH9

    What? A little TOO obsessive? Yeah, well, maybe…:P

  • Aphra

    I bet Lexicon staffers wish they had their own 12 Grimmauld Place to hide on days like today.

  • kamion

    thanks for updating the piece on nr 12 Grimmaul Place. It set the things back were they belonged.
    In the movie they emphasised they idea that nr 12 was sqeezed between nr 11 and nr 13 and therefore high and narrow.
    While it just a normal sized house with the capacity of being unnoticed.

  • http://www.hp-lexicon.org SiriusBlack

    nice job john.

  • John

    Nice job, I wonder whether Harry ever lived at Number Twelve again?

  • Bandersnatch

    LOL, JJB! I never noticed either of those door-puns (I particularly like griffin-door).

  • Patrick

    Great job on the page!

    But I do have one question. I remember asking myself this when I first read the book and on every re-read since: when Kreacher leaves Grimmauld Place to visit Narcissa Malfoy, wouldn’t Narcissa recognize Kreacher as the inhabitant elf of her aunt, uncle, and cousin’s house? Obviously HE knew her, so why couldn’t the Malfoy Family make the connection that the Order of the Phoenix was located here? I know there was a Fidelius Charm and all, but does this seem like gaping hole of obviousness to anyone else? Narcissa was not part of the Charm (Snape was, and thereby unable to reveal it’s whereabouts in HBP2), but surely she knew where it was (since her father’s elder sister Walburga inherited the house, certainly Cygnus can contest to the same “house of my fathers” statement, so the location was obviously known)? Albeit they would not have been able to enter the house, perhaps the Death Eaters would have staked the outskirts just as they did in DH?

    Is anyone else with me?

  • Sarah

    A good point, Patrick. Maybe the Death Eaters weren’t ready to move so openly yet? Although, entering the Ministry was pretty open a move, so maybe that doesn’t work. There are probably a whole bunch of similar reasons, but I can’t think of any. And who knows what the Death Eaters/Malfoys were REALLY thinking, anyway? One of the many puzzles in Harry Potter.

  • Aphra

    I don’t think we’ll be sticking with you much longer. I’m rather sickened by the news I’ve been reading. And I can’t bear to even type in the HPL URL anymore. Steve, how could you?

  • selia

    Aphra, that was cheap. Don’t type it then.

  • Naco

    The shame of this website is Steve. Don’t attack other collaborators, the TRUE collaborators, who don’t deserve work with this guy.

    Please, resign. You are hurting your team. Not just a teenage webmaster? You should think about it. You are the one who is in the Court today. Yes, The 49 years old webmaster, the “I, I, I” is you.

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