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Dumbledore and Harry visit Slughorn

"I think I know a lost cause when I see one."
-- Albus Dumbledore, standing up to leave Slughorn's home (HBP4)

Dumbledore and Harry visit Slughorn

July 13, 1996, just after midnight – En route to the Burrow from Privet Drive, Dumbledore takes Harry to call on Horace Slughorn – who, in trying to evade the Death Eaters, possible employers, and anyone who would make him do work or associate himself with one side over another in a conflict, has been moving to a different Muggle home every few days. Knowing that Dumbledore is coming to ask him to return to teaching at Hogwarts, Slughorn quickly stages his temporary residence so that it appears as though a violent intrusion by Death Eaters has occurred. However, Slughorn forgets to put a Dark Mark in the sky above the house, and it is apparent to Dumbledore that it is a ruse.

Inside, Dumbledore easily locates the armchair that is really Slughorn in disguise, and turns him back to his human shape. After the two old colleagues clean up the mess with magic and Slughorn steadfastly refuses to go back to teaching, Dumbledore leaves Slughorn and Harry alone. Slughorn boasts to Harry about successful former students of his with whom he keeps in touch and gets perks. He also displays a questionable attitude regarding Muggle-borns; apparently liking and accepting individual ones (such as Harry’s mother), but, on the whole, doubting their competency as witches and wizards. Just as Harry and Dumbledore are about to leave when Slughorn decides that “collecting” Harry as one of his favorites and being safe at Hogwarts outweigh the downsides of Dumbledore’s request, and he takes the job. But he says loudly as Harry and Dumbledore are leaving, “I’ll want a pay raise!”

Timeline Notes

Dumbledore called on the Dursleys at 11 pm. After that conversation, he and Harry left for Budleigh Babberton. Upon arrival, Harry noticed that "(a)ccording to a clock on a nearby church, it was almost midnight." This means that they arrive at the house where Slughorn is staying around midnight and visit between 12 and 1 am on July 13.

Note that this date does not try to reconcile with the fact that according to Pottermore, Sirius Black was killed on Thursday, June 18, which in reality was a Tuesday. This would change the date of the Saturday of visiting Slughorn to July 11. Either date could be considered correct, assuming that Pottermore's date for Sirius's death is in fact canon (which is not certain). Thanks to user ironyak1 for pointing out this discrepancy.



As Dumbledore and Harry walk to the house in which Slughorn is staying, Dumbledore remarks that Voldemort "killed enough people to make an army of."  In the sea cave months later, they discover that Voldemort does, indeed, have quite a sizable group of corpses ready to do his bidding (HBP26). -BB

Pensieve (Comments)

  • Excellent reasoning. However, I’m not sure how to rectify the fact that June 18, 1996, was actually a Tuesday, since we do try to adhere to the Real World Calendar (RWC) as much as possible. Clearly, Order of the Phoenix does not. However, when we switch over to Half-Blood Prince, we shift back to RWC when we determine dates. We are automatically two days off, then, from the events at the end of OP. There’s no way to actually make these fit, so we just rather arbitrarily make the break between books the place where we rejigger our calendars to fit the RWC as the story continues.

    This happens a lot as we try to create our timeline of events. If we completely ignore the RWC, we’d end up with the stories happening in the wrong month by the end of it all. We know that Rowling plans in month blocks (going by her planning chart for OP) and so it’s a fools errand to try to match things up more closely than that. But we’re pretty much the fools to try …

    Thanks for the comments! I’m going to append the Timeline Notes to include your observations.


  • Each event on our timeline has a “level of certainty” assigned to it. This indicates whether that event is based on the RWC, whether it’s stated in canon, etc. In order for our website to chronologically order events, we have to assign them more precise date and time than is usually given in the canon, but that extra information is not supposed to be visible to the user. The timeline is only supposed to show event with the level of canon certainty that we have.

    Unfortunately, while the organization is working and things appear in order, the function to filter what information is actually shown to the user is still problematic. We’re finding that we have to completely re-invent the search routines in order to do all the things we want to do. And since all of this is being done by volunteers who have massively busy Real Lives, that re-invention is not moving as quickly as we’d like.

    As a result, you are actually seeing “more” timeline information than you’re “supposed” to right now. All I can say is, hang in there!


    • ironyak1

      Thanks for the behind-the-curtain view of how things work. Look forward to seeing the improvements once they get sorted!
      “What we need … is more time.” “Always” 🙂

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